Angel 4×17: Inside Out

[Review by Sue Carter]

[Writer: Steven S. DeKnight | Director: Steven S. DeKnight | Aired: 04/02/2003]

“Inside Out” represents a major turning point in Season 4. It’s extremely exposition heavy out of necessity as Team Angel comes to terms with “Cordelia” being the Big Bad, the birth of Jasmine, and Connor crossing a major line in the morality sand. This episode holds the responsibility to make sense out of the events thus far and set up the final arc in the season. It accomplishes that task, but does so with mixed success in terms of dialog and character.

“Inside Out” is one of those rare episodes that is written and directed by the same individual, in this case Steve DeKnight. This gives DeKnight considerable control over the entire process, but it’s hard not to wonder if some of the episode’s flaws are brought on by this being his first directorial experience. A little too much reliance on slow-motion for the fight sequences, a few continuity errors, and heavy-handed music represent some of these directing flaws. Conversely, the sequence between Darla and Connor is outstanding. Still, it’s probably the writing which deserves the most scrutiny.

The title “Inside Out” covers the main plot points; Team Angel and Connor’s world are turned inside out by the end of this episode as Jasmine literally moves from the villain inside Cordelia to a physical entity, and Connor and “Cordelia” are no longer inside Angel Investigations (AI) but rather hunted and on the outside. It’s an intentionally unsettling episode and in this way it succeeds. Most of Season 4 is unsettling. That seems to be just where Mutant Enemy (ME) wants the audience. The two big disturbing themes are: 1) the potential that everyone is just a pawn in a larger playground, and 2) the corruption of Connor’s soul.

The issue of pre-destination is hit upon very heavily by powerful demon Skip, the mercenary. He weaves together a story that states that every member of AI was manipulated into supporting the moment of Jasmine’s incarnation. The use of Skip is disturbing because he is such a likeable demon. He’s introduced again with light humor (the audio gag of him eating Buffalo wings is great), and then we find out he’s been playing for the Big Bad since “Billy” [3×06], where he let Angel defeat him. Skip’s motivation as a “merc” seems fairly obvious. He says he goes where the money is but he also shows enough arrogance that I’m going to speculate he probably was bored stiff on jail duty and liked having a bigger role in cosmic events. So I buy ‘evil Skip.’ But it does pull the rug out from under the audience who used to consider him trustworthy, especially as Cordelia’s guide.

I’ll cut to the chase and say that I think Skip intentionally overstates the pre-destination story to try and make AI believe their situation is hopeless. The aspects that are believable (and are repeated multiple times later in the series): Angel won Connor’s life when he tried to win a life for Darla, Jasmine (not the Powers) helped Cordelia get sent to a higher plane so she could hitch a ride, and Cordelia really didn’t deserve the higher plane yet, which is why she was so bored and alone there. That “Cordelia” targeted and manipulated Connor is evident, but it’s not clear that this is his only purpose for existing. He was ripe for manipulation, had the skillset to be Jasmine’s champion, and his involvement was a major distraction for Angel. Jasmine may have simply used Connor for her advantage rather than directly orchestrating his existence.

As for the rest of the nonsense — Gunn’s sister, Fred going to Pylea, and potentially Cordelia’s powers — Skip’s story does not seem particularly well supported. For Jasmine, what irreplaceable value did Wesley sleeping with Lilah provide? How did Gunn’s sister getting killed remotely effect Jasmine’s existence? However, Skip did serve his purpose; both AI and the audience are thrown for a major loop with his reveal. Further, when Skip dies, it hurts. Even though he’s a minor character he’s one we didn’t want to lose. Death of a beloved character is always a bonus in the Whedonverse.

The corruption of Connor’s soul is another major theme of “Inside Out.” Connor fights this slide like a drowning swimmer. Connor’s defense of Angel and attempt to blame it on Angelus is the first indication that somewhere along the way, Connor bought into both Angel and his mission. “Cordelia’s” explanation that Angel is trying to kill them (Connor, Cordelia, and the baby) because he hates Connor is the perfect argument. Connor fears he is actually a monster, Angelus’s son, and therefore an abomination. That Angel might eventually have to kill him makes sense to Connor. The jealousy argument is self-evident with Angel’s reaction post “Apocalypse, Nowish” [4×07]. Angel really did treat Connor like a romantic rival and this is enough truth to help shore up the rest of “Cordelia’s” story.

Completely unsupportable, however, is that Fred, Gunn, Wesley and Lorne and bad. For this “Cordelia” brings out the argument of Moral Relativism. It’s poorly played and hard to believe that Connor buys it though. DeKnight is counting on us accepting that “Cordelia” has completely destabilized Connor enough that he will grab onto her offer of family and love rather than rely on his own experience. It’s a hard sell made worse by some truly cheesy dialog. “Cordelia,” with the discordant Music of Mental Manipulation hammering in the background, speaks to Connor as if he is five years old with terms like “special” as a means of justification. It doesn’t work, however, and Connor almost pulls back from the edge.

Connor’s scene with Darla is a powerful one that is frustrating to watch. I suppose that’s what makes it a tragedy. There are so many ‘if only’ moments to it. If only Connor had freed the girl before Cordelia showed up. If only Darla had indicated that “Cordelia” was not herself. The Powers set up an extremely unfair test for Connor. After 18 years of manipulation and lack of family they pit an unambiguous evil act against the life of his child and a chance at a family. He knows it’s wrong but he’s clearly ready to give up the good fight and accept a rationalization that Darla is only a magic trick by Angel. It’s why he had to declare “You are not my mother!” She had to be a lie or the house of cards would collapse. It’s a powerful scene and conundrum that unfortunately gets seriously marred by the characterization of “Cordelia.”

This brings me to the fly in the chardonnay of this episode: the campy villainy of “Cordelia.” As the music is discordant, so is “Cordelia.” She’s not sexy, smart, or even moderately compelling in this context. I’ll split the blame here between seriously flawed dialog, horrific costuming, and unfortunate acting choices. First, let me cut Charisma Carpenter some slack. I’ve personally been eight and a half months pregnant. By that time my mood and my furled eyebrows were doing a Leonid Brezhnev impersonation. Filming a critical and subtle episode at that stage goes beyond reasonable professional expectations, in my opinion. Crawling on the ground muttering inane chanting? She has my complete sympathy. It’s no wonder Carpenter couldn’t elevate the script beyond the poor dialog. But to be completely honest, being a dramatically heavy Big Bad probably didn’t play to her acting strengths either. Her tone oscillated between snark and condescension. “We’re special.” “Your heart will lie to you.” “Who’s been filling your head with big, confusing words?” That dialog is hard to overcome for any actor.

In terms of the season long arc it doesn’t get much more relevant than “Inside Out.” Through this episode we get the full picture on everything that came before along with the setup for the Jasmine arc to come. Season 4 has two big storylines. First, it continues the series-long thesis that free will is our most important human right. Second, it tells the story of Angel’s son Connor and the permanent shift of Angel’s priorities. “Inside Out” does a good job at letting us know a lot about Connor. Uncertainty and hesitation were not part of Holtz’s world view, as it would likely get one killed in the constant daily struggle to survive in Quor’toth. But when “Cordelia” and Darla are both screaming at him, he simply becomes unglued. He can’t actually operate within “Cordelia’s” Moral Relativism so he frames the problem in terms of truth and lies. It’s much easier to accept that Angel is lying than to accept the truth that Darla offers, as tragic as that is.

In terms of story value, in addition to being an essential exposition episode, ”Inside Out” is a key character outing, particularly for Connor. In summary, while there are some jarring flaws that have to be ignored to fully enjoy this episode, the overall themes, character development, and importance to the season all work to make “Inside Out” both a worthy and significant chapter in the Season 4 operatic narrative.


Minor Pros/Cons (+/-)

+ The AI replay of events with Cordelia as the villain was entertaining and needed; especially the Lizzie Borden rewrite in mid-explanation.
+ Nice touch hiding in a meat packing plant. Clearly it was a ploy to mask the smell.
+ Vincent Kartheiser and Julie Benz were outstanding together as mother and son.
+ Angel and Wes’ discussion of “Cordelia” using a relationship with Connor to keep Angel distracted was a key point. Seen in that light, “Cordelia’s” actions make more sense.
+ Gina Torres is a compelling, radiant woman. Her selection to play an incarnate deity was a good choice. Her one word introduction was nicely understated.
+ We never have to hear the discordant Music of Mental Manipulation again after this episode. I was ready for them to kill the virgin just so the music would stop.
+ The virgin was well played. She was unflinchingly sympathetic and her terror came across very real. There was no grey for Connor to work with.
+ The use of Darla in lieu of the girl during the murder was a little obvious, but worked. Connor’s stunned look as the blood splattered her face was effective.

– When will Angel learn that flesh against metal will not be successful? He took a pummeling for quite some time before finally getting a chain.
– How could Angel have let Connor stay gone while pulling the sting operation on “Cordelia?” Connor’s actions were predictable and Angel once again proves that he thinks he can make decisions for others. In this case he decided to keep Connor in the dark rather than talk to him or actually trap him to avoid disruption. Sloppy.
– Charles’ free will speech was a little too on the nose. Fred calling him on it wasn’t a strong enough lampshade. We get it: “free will” is the theme of the season but the writers were a bit heavy handed with that speech.
– “Cordelia” is obviously using magic, something Connor has repeatedly rejected. He should have objected. A better argument for her would have been some call-back to how Faith was prepared to die for the right cause and how sacrifice is a necessary evil, etc. should have been used to justify the ceremony. As it is, we have to rely on mental instability to explain why Connor would go along with black magic.
– Taking on Kid Vicious and “Cordelia” alone? Really Angel, that’s another tactical planning failure. He should have taken Gunn. Protecting “feelings” versus ensuring the world doesn’t end? That was an obvious contrivance to make it the Angel/Cordy/Connor triangle one more time.
– What happened to the dead girl’s body after Jasmine arrived?
– That this had the potential to be Charisma Carpenter’s last episode is a crime. Thankfully “You’re Welcome” [5×12] was filmed.


* This episode nicely foreshadows Connor’s eventual descent into nihilism. Holtz gave him a foundation of moral absolutes. Even after his death, Connor clung to “the good” as defined by Holtz. Connor loses his absolute sense of right and wrong in this episode. By killing the girl he’s given up “the good.”
* Connor is floating at this point, looking for something to cling to. Jasmine becomes that answer and like a drowning swimmer he latches onto her with both hands. This episode foreshadows his choice to buy into the Jasmine lie rather than stick with Angel’s truth.
* Team Angel refuses to accept Skip’s declaration that there is nothing they can do. This foreshadows their choice for free will versus happiness in “Sacrifice” [4×20] and beyond.



26 thoughts on “Angel 4×17: Inside Out”

  1. [Note: buffyholic posted this comment on February 7, 2012.]

    Nice job, Sue. You really nailed both the good and the bad of this episode. And I agree that it´s a pretty good episode, even though I don´t appreciate very much, mainly due to the Skip part. But the Connor/Darla scene is so well done and my heart really breaks for Connor.


  2. [Note: Brachen Man posted this comment on February 7, 2012.]

    Good review, Sue. I wouldn’t have been as kind though. Season 4 really hampered my love for this series as a whole (I eventually recovered), but it was nice to see someone review it rationally.

    My main complaints for “Inide Out”:

    Skip’s scenes here are the absolute low point of the series for me.

    Evil Cordelia was a wreck of a storyline that ended exactly as horribly as I’d expected.

    Connor’s moral dilemmas were the least engaging thing I’ve ever seen. The actor just couldn’t nail it very well.

    (Although this last one is more a flaw of Season 4 as a whole, I’ll include it anyway.) The focus on characters other than Angel, Connor, and Wesley this season is downright depressing.


  3. [Note: Alex posted this comment on February 7, 2012.]

    Good work, Sue. Like Brachen Man, I’d probably be much harder on this episode, but it would mostly be my problems with Season 4 as a whole clouding my judgement rather than many specific things about this episode itself. This episode actually has some great moments, and you’ve done a great job of highlighting what those are as well as identifying what doesn’t work. Your analysis of Connor’s motivations is completely spot on.

    I consider your last ‘Minor Con’ to be a much bigger deal – that alone loses the episode many points in my book. Someone actually thought this was a suitable way for Cordelia to go out? It’s truly terrible. But again, that’s a bigger problem for the season as a whole and it’s not really fair to place all the blame on this episode. I cannot believe that someone thought ‘uh oh, Charisma’s pregnant, we’d better have Cordelia possessed for this whole season and then she’ll get pregnant and slip into a coma’. If that was the best they could come up with, they should have just had Cordy slip into the coma at the beginning of the season.

    It’s also really interesting to hear from someone who’s actually had a baby. I’m not a mother, and I’m slightly ashamed to admit that I never really stopped to think about how difficult it must have been for Charisma to do all her scenes while so heavily pregnant. You’re right that the character she was playing and the lines she was given really don’t do her any favours, and the whole thing adds up to a truly terrible villain. It’s such a shame because during her brief stint on Charmed she played a charismatic (no pun intended), morally ambiguous demon pretty darn well. With some better writing, and perhaps without the pregnancy, she might actually have made a pretty compelling mother-of-Jasmine. But all we get is a load of ‘muahaha-ing’.

    Finally, I love your interpretation of Skip’s words. ‘Skip intentionally overstates the pre-destination story to try and make AI believe their situation is hopeless’. YES. I’m going to go with that, because the alternatives are just too depressing to even consider!


  4. [Note: Sue posted this comment on February 12, 2012.]

    Thanks for the feedback. I totally agree that this was a horrible way for Charisma to go out, I didn’t think it was fair to put it all on this episode — I’d definitely takes points off of S4 as a whole though.

    And yes, I insist on keeping my Skip love. I think he was smarter than he came across, he was not a dupe. I also don’t think he was evil either – I think he WAS just a merc who decided who he’d back as the winning horse. I think he just through in his lot with “Master” or “Hey” (another classic Skip line, even when it was killing me to see him as a bad-guy).


  5. [Note: Erin posted this comment on June 9, 2012.]

    I was left confused at the end of the episode about the whole ‘Skip’ thing. I wasn’t really sure where he stood in all of this. The Darla and Connor scene was heartbreaking though, definitely the highlight of the episode for me.


  6. [Note: wytchcroft posted this comment on August 5, 2012.]

    //The Powers set up an extremely unfair test for Connor.//

    (imo) it wasn’t Darla it was the First. And they got exactly what they wanted.


  7. [Note: Will posted this comment on August 24, 2012.]

    “In this case he decided to keep Connor in the dark rather than talk to him or actually trap him to avoid disruption. Sloppy.”

    It’s not sloppy characterisation, it’s just very sloppy writing. The same can be said for a lot this season. On a similar note, I tend not to bother thinking hypothetically when it comes to Skip’s deterministic assertions, as it’s essentially impossible that the writers had thought this arc through when writing seasons 1 or 2. So it’d be quite redundant, really.


  8. [Note: Debisib posted this comment on October 11, 2012.]

    I rationalize Skip’s theory on Gunn’ sister, Fred/Pylea, Cordy’s powers, and Wes/Lilah needing to happen as:1. Gunn never would’ve joined AI if it weren’t for the loss of his sister, therefore changing future events entirely. Same with Fred. If she hadn’t been in Pylea, she never would’ve met Angel.2. If Wes and Lilah never had a relationship, she may still be alive (maybe not but we don’t know). If Lilah is still alive, she may have been able to negatively affect the upcoming events by reaching out for help from another W&H.3. Cordelia’s demonic powers may have needed to exist just so Jasmine could be born. A normal human probably couldn’t have handled her being inside.Just my theory…


  9. [Note: fray-adjacent posted this comment on October 11, 2012.]

    I think (3) is true, and maybe (2). But I actually can’t think of anything that Gunn or Fred did that played a role in the birth of Jasmine. It says a lot about how these characters have been sidelined, and maybe there’s just something I’m forgetting, but on first thought it seems like the Connor/Cordelia/Jasmine arc could have played out pretty similarly without them there.I think Skip is lying about the extent to which Jasmine has been orchestrating events since Angel came to LA (or maybe since he was pulled from Hell in “Faith, Hope, and Trick”).


  10. [Note: Debisib posted this comment on October 24, 2012.]

    You could totally be right. I just always assumed that this was ‘butterfly effect’ type of thing.


  11. [Note: Craig posted this comment on May 9, 2013.]

    When my girlfriend and I were watching this episode and came to the part where Skip explains the plot, she and I paused it and agreed we wouldn’t accept what had just happened as canon. We both loved Skip and we chose to forget that his scene here ever existed (especially because the conspiracy he espouses is infuriatingly stupid and unnecessary).


  12. [Note: Ryan ONeil posted this comment on May 9, 2013.]

    Yeah, especially since the whole point of his introduction was that just because somebody looks super evil doesn’t mean that he is, that’s not the kind of fundamental-to-the-series-Angel message where you just say “Oops, never mind.”


  13. [Note: Sinnorfin posted this comment on August 16, 2013.]

    A thought just occurred to me tonight watching this episode.

    The vision of Darla could have been the First Evil. It makes sense it would try to stop a force like Jasmine. Also it would contrast perfectly the situation of how good and evil can manifest.


  14. [Note: LoanShark posted this comment on August 27, 2013.]

    There was a throwaway line in this episode that actually seemed REALLY significant. Skip told Angel that no one had ever left Paradise except for a Slayer, a clear reference to Buffy. This line would imply that the Paradise in which Cordelia was living at the beginning of Season 4 is the same Paradise where Buffy went. Therefore, when Buffy died, she must have been promoted to a transcendent being (and considering her countless selfless actions in life, it makes sense).

    If it’s true, then it’s noteworthy to see how differently Cordelia, Jasmine, and Buffy respond to this Paradise. Cordelia and Jasmine get bored and want to return to Earth. However, for Buffy, it’s the complete opposite. After a life of suffering and worrying about the fate of mankind, she is at peace to rest, and so when she comes back to life, she finds the world oppressive and cruel, as opposed to Jasmine. It’s an interesting idea, anyhow.


  15. [Note: Robert posted this comment on May 16, 2014.]

    Not at all relevant to the plot, but the infamous “Music of Mental Manipulation” in this episode was first used way back in Season 2’s “Reunion”. The exact scene was when Drusilla was standing over Darla’s “grave” on the rooftop. Sort of fitting that the crazy-making music would be used for a scene with Drusilla 🙂

    As for Charisma’s performance, I know she’s stated several times how much she hated this whole storyline (particularly the creepy Cordy/Connor relationship). So, I can only imagine how hard it must have been for her during those final scenes, especially since this would be her last ep (with lines at least) until her guest appearance in S5. I think she did the best she could with the over-the-top lines she was given.


  16. [Note: Toony posted this comment on May 31, 2014.]

    I felt read bad for the virgin girl in this episode and wonder if Angel transplanted Connor in her family to make amends.
    She really was well played and her pleading to be freed, her just wanting to go home and bringing up her mom up was a punch in the gut come the end.


  17. [Note: Dobian posted this comment on August 25, 2014.]

    I would have been fine with the whole Evil Cordelia storyline if they had just restored the real Cordelia before the end of the season. Instead they just tossed her out like trash. It seemed spiteful.

    I never liked Connor, and liked him even less at the conclusion of this storyline. He might have been a confused teen, but this was one annyoing, irritating, unlikable confused teen.


  18. [Note: Rob W posted this comment on September 6, 2014.]

    Cordelia, good riddance. Ugh, I’m not sure I’ll be able to watch S4 again for a long time. These scenes where Cordelia is talking to Connor about the baby, so disgusting.


  19. [Note: Luvtennis posted this comment on October 19, 2014.]

    Oh gosh, where to begin. First, Jasmine is a metaphor for what Cordy was headed for with her new powers. Like Willow, Cordy wanted to save the world by controlling it. Unlike Willow, who was in despair and wanted death Cordy wanted to relieve the pain in the world which is impossible without enslaving the planet. At this point, one of the main themes of Angel and Buffy is manifest. The darkness in the world is the price we pay for free will. That’s the lesson Willow, Cordy, Angel and Buffy learn.

    Also I don’t think Skip was evil when he helped Cordy ascend. I think he was duped by Jasmine hence his later fury at the suggestion that he was a patsy. He was. And he had no choice but to throw his lot in with Jasmine. He had committed a grave sin.


  20. [Note: B posted this comment on November 24, 2014.]

    I believe The First was appearing as Darla, has anyone asked Joss or Steven if it was really Darla or The First? I thought Charisma did the best she could with the material she was given. She hated it and it showed, I don’t think it was pregnancy hormones! How does the man who created a feminist icon mishandle/mistreat disrespect his leading lady because of her pregnancy?! She was the leading lady and then he fired her and claimed she was never a leading lady?! Did Charisma really deserve that, I don’t think so. Clusterf×ck!!! SMG and Charisma both spoke about Joss mistreating them at one time or another yes both actresses careers suffered after their series ended but so did Joss’. I think the success of The Avengers has more to do with the fans of the comics than his fans because MAOS is flopping big time and is a critical flop to boot I don’t think his fans have forgiven him for some of his mistakes.


  21. [Note: LouisLittForEmperor posted this comment on April 7, 2015.]

    I think it’s safe to say that Jasmine’s origins are the most elaborate and messed up outside of Prometheus. We have two vampires (one with a soul) create a weird super human being which then has sex with a part-demon human who was a former higher being (currently possessed by the future offspring) resulting in some kind of God-like being who emerges as a fully-grown woman while also being a corpse half the time. I heard Avengers 200 (check out AT4W for details on that) had a concept similar to this but clearly this is the more elaborate of the two. Truly birth is a miraculous thing.


  22. [Note: LouisLittForEmperor posted this comment on January 27, 2016.]

    Gonna be hard to think of this episode again without having the Pixar film in mind.

    Get her to the moon for me, Angel.


  23. [Note: TheDoThatGirl posted this comment on June 28, 2016.]

    Okay. Now, while I’m not a fan of what was done to Skip’s character, I am going to think hard on what he said about everyone’s involvement in Jasmine’s rebirth.

    Since a rogue power would think on a grand scale, I have no issues thinking that she maneuvered Sahjahn into seeing his death prophecized and then taking action by bringing Holtz to the 21st century to exact revenge on Angelus, though that doesn’t go as he’d hoped. But, enough on that, now to the madness that Skip spouted about team Angel.

    I get Lorne’s leaving Pylea as instrumental in Jasmine’s birth. Lorne was the one who sent Angel and Darla to the trials where she hijacked the second chance at life that Angel had won for her own purposes.

    Now, as for everything happening to Cordy so that she could become Jasmine’s vessel…

    I honestly don’t think the sleeping with the enemy jibe was a reference to Wes and Lilah, but more to meeting with Holtz behind AI’s backs. Holtz continually ‘seduced’ an already spiraling Wes into betraying everyone. But, on the chance I’m wrong. Lilah and Wes’s relationship playing a part in Jasmine’s arrival? Well, it certainly gave Lilah the opportunity to play Wes and suck the info from Lorne, and said info was later used to find the Beast which spun more webs of bullshit as faux-Cordy clearly wanted the group, sans Conner, to see it, fight and lose spectacularly while she boned (ewwwww) Conner to make her vessel.

    Gunn staking his sister: Maneuver him to join AI. Seeing his sister as a vamp, and staking her, as well as meeting Angel nd having his whole lines and notions on vampires blurred put him in AI, which sparks the Gunn/Fred/Wes triangle. What does that do? Well, unlike Angel who realized he wasn’t alone due to Cordy/Groo because he had baby Conner, Wes didn’t have that sort of blanket, making him stealing Conner a bit easier. I’m pretty sure if he wasn’t reeling from heartbreak and insecurity over Fred/Gunn, taking solace in his intellect, the one thing he has no insecurities about (classic Watcher), he probably would have been more apt to talk to the group about his findings instead of harking back to BtVS season 3 Wes who had kidnapped Faith.

    Fred being sent to Pylea: It later maneuvered to become part of AI and realize her place there. Why? See above. And Fred fans, don’t skin me alive like Warren because I love Fred, but I believe Jasmine needed Fred as a distraction for when she was inside Cordy. If I’m a rogue power that was, and I need a bunch of goons to come back, as well as stay distracted by their own shit while I’m vulnerable inside a mortal until I can birth myself, I’m going to use a love triangle. Jasmine’s a former power, been around since the beginning and she knows what kind of bullshit people can do, as well as ignore, when faced with lust, love and jealousy. But any old girl wouldn’t do, it had to be one that was too damaged to truly leave AI, then once she became her own person, found an attraction to one member due to his personality and charm while the one most likely to actually get Conner where she needed him to be suffered from (At the time) unrequited love as well as his own insecurities when it comes to women, but confident in his knowledge.

    But, if we want to say that ‘Opening the wrong book’ meant Fred finding out about what her Professor had done to her, then, sorry, yes, that still works as a good distraction because of the animosity it sparks within the group.

    Cordy’s new demon powers: I just believe a human wouldn’t be able to handle having Jasmine inside of them. Plus, Cordy’s the perfect candidate given her history from Sunnydale, eager to prove herself even if she’s not really aware of it yet, especially after finding out about monsters, losing her shallow friends, getting played by Xander then going from riches to rags. Jasmine knew what buttons to really push to eventually get her where she needed her to be.

    Or, I could be wrong and I need to lay off the coffee. 😀


  24. Good review.

    “For this “Cordelia” brings out the argument of Moral Relativism. It’s poorly played and hard to believe that Connor buys it though. ” No, it’s not. Connor is a dumbass who never fails to do the wrong thing. God, I hate Connor.

    Well, look at that, Buffy, sometimes guns ARE helpful. I thought we were getting an anti-gun message from Skip a la Buffy until Wes shows they can be useful.

    I liked Skip. The guy who looks all mean and scary but talks in a totally modern, friendly way. But he was really getting on my last nerve with all of his sarcastic comments this episode.. Enough already, good riddance.

    So who or what the heck was Darla? A hail mary from the Powers That Be? Very effective to see Darla in the place of the innocent right when “Cordy” swings the knife.

    Louis, Ha! I got Avengers #200 when it came out back in the day. Yes, there’s a guy in another dimension who wants to live on Earth because he’s all alone and horribly lonely so he contrives to bring Carol Danvers, aka, Ms. Marvel to his dimension. He woos her and they get busy, and she gets pregnant with her lover as the baby as he had to be born into Earth. Back on Earth Carol experiences a full term pregnancy in a matter of days. In a matter of hours, her baby/lover is a full grown man. Alas, he could not stay on Earth and had to return to his dimension and horribly loneliness, but Carol agreed to go with him. Although, in the dialogue, he admits he used means to alter Carol’s thoughts, which readers considered rape, and there was a big controversy over what I’m sure was mean to be a romantic story. Yes, the rapid pregnancy deal has been done before. Didn’t it happen to Troi in Star Trek the Next Generation as well?


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