Angel 1×09: Hero

[Review by Ryan Bovay]

[Writer: Tim Minear and Howard Gordon | Director: Tucker Gates | Aired: 11/30/1999]

“Yes, Doyle is dead. We killed him. Sorry about that.”Joss Whedon

“Hero” is an episode with much strength and some nasty, rather unfortunate weaknesses. I was in fact, disappointed with it the first time I saw it, as my appreciation for the Doyle character had grown immensely in just the eight short, previous episodes. And unlike some other deaths in the Whedonverse, it wasn’t handled as spectacularly as it could’ve been. This isn’t because it’s bad; not at all. It’s only that character deaths, disappearances or alterations are usually huge and immensely well crafted events in this fictional universe, and in comparison with episodes such as “Reunion” [2×10] or “A Hole in the World” [5×15], “Hero” falls way short in terms of both series impact and standalone quality. But, it does have a lot to offer, especially for us wee clan of Doyle fans, and it’s a worthy send off for the ‘poorly-dressed superhero.’

The set up for the episode is straightforward, and isn’t bandied about in the shadows as it annoyingly could’ve been: A group of Lister demons (half demons) being hunted by a dangerous organization of pure blooded demons known as the Scourge appear to Doyle in a vision, and Angel Investigations takes it upon themselves to help the beleaguered clan before they’re hunted to extinction.

Before going into the episode’s character and plot points, it behooves me to dive into the series’ mythology and the inconsistencies we get here with the rest of the Buffy/Angelverse, as the existence of these demon clans raises major questions; it’s where the episode gets hurt a great deal.

The mythology of BtVS has taught us a few things: the soul gives one the ability to determine right from wrong and act accordingly, and that every demon that exists on Earth has to have some part of it that is human in its essence (meaning one could have a soul), as pure demons no longer exist in the human dimension. Also, the lack of a soul tends to make one amoral, completely selfish and otherwise a killing machine, or at least capable of feeling no guilt for any such sin (see: any demon). What remains unanswered in this episode is the status of these Lister demons. Do they have souls? How much of them is human? Maybe they deserve to be hunted down.

They’re made to resemble humans in their social ways to strike up sympathy and that’s understandable but unfortunate, as it’s never really explained. The parallel to the Brachen demons, which we’re led to believe have souls since Doyle is one and has one, might be the only shade of a ‘yes’ to answer the question. As I mentioned in my review of “The Bachelor Party” [1×07], it’s a problem that plagues the mythology of AtS from start to finish. Good questions are often raised, but frustratingly, no answers are provided.

We’re left to interpret everything ourselves; perhaps the Lister demons and other passive, assimilated clans are examples of one’s ability to ignore the natural order of things and adapt (an ironically human quality for a demon, hey?).This, much in the same way characters like Lindsey McDonald and Lilah Morgan, or Angel in S2, are good case studies of how one can choose to turn away from their soul (their nature) and unwaveringly do the things they do; nature’s intent has nothing to do with it.

Or maybe nature’s just it: The genetic predisposition of some demons makes them less violent. But, that conflicts with the idea of lacking a soul making one amoral towards and a practitioner of evil, which we see these Listers are not. Maybe their human side is dominant, giving them souls, but we’re never really told.

More unfortunate are the Scourge, which I’ll tell you I hated. Firstly: Nazis? Nazis. If you’ve watched more than one sci-fi or fantasy show/movie in the past thirty or fourty years, you’ll see that any and every group of oppression and supremacy has been modeled after the infamous hegemonic go-getters of WWII. It’s tacky, stupid, and illogical; a demon clan that despises anything less than pure blood demons and they model themselves after a human group? Perhaps if a joke had been thrown in about how the Nazi’s copied them, I could’ve coped. My other problem has to do with this ‘pure blood’ concept, which is also unexplained.

We learned in S3 of Buffy that since the time of the demons on Earth’s plane ended, no pure blooded demon has existed in our dimension save for a few very rare oddities (such as powerful warlocks who ascended, as Mayor Wilkins did in BtVS “Graduation Day, Part II” ). Every demon on Earth has some part of them that is human so they can physically exist in our dimension. This conflicts directly with the whole pure blood idea of these demons, as even they are half-breeds in one way or another.

If they had a reason to believe they weren’t, or held a human desperation to elevate themselves, subsequently acting out genocide to quell their fears of admitting to the humanity tied to their essence, some great material could’ve emerged. Instead we get a wholly undeveloped and stupid enemy organization. The addendum to stupid: lazy. These were the same demons that appeared in BtVS “Anne,” only now dressed in Gestapo gear.

This may be Buffy mythology, but Angel and Buffy both live in the same world, in a way. Just because they’re on different shows doesn’t mean the established rules go away or can be changed arbitrarily, and at this point in time AtS’ mythology is still basing itself off BtVS’, so one would assume that such tenets apply. My final criticism of this episode is that the racial themes, which could’ve made for some very insightful exploration into the subcultures of demons (themes which were still in the infant stages of the entire Whedonverse at this point, chronologically) were completely passed in over in favour of a simple, recognizable imagine of unadulterated evil that begged no nuance or development (frickin Nazis). This is out of step with the show already, as Angel’s enemies have already proven to be far more interesting than mindless evil.

Now, as you’ve by this point noticed, this installment provides a lot more to talk about than most episodes, even some superior to it. And there’s plenty on the positive side too, much of it resting on the capable shoulders of Glenn Quinn as Doyle, who again does a number here. His character arc comes to a brilliant peak and a tragic end in this episode and how the writers succeed is in how logical it truly becomes of him. The exploration of his past, regrets and the development thus far in his life with Angel (primarily in “The Bachelor Party” [1×07] ) has set him up perfectly.

The episode, ignoring the shoddy racial issues, is about Heroes, our images of heroes and the societal preconceptions of what one should look like and act like. If we’re putting Superman up as a standard, than Doyle is far from par. Even compared to Angel, a former serial killer, he pales and he knows it: “I would have chosen the pleasures of the flesh over duty and honor any day of the week. I just don’t have that strength.” Cordelia thinks so too, and is eager to supplant Angel with him in her home made advertisement for Angel Investigations. She tells Doyle: “Angel is all wrong for this commercial! He is a larger-than-life character, way too Braveheart for Joe-Couch-potato to relate to. We need someone who’s – average, of the mill, ordinary….you’re perfect.”

What occurs is a pretty simple tale that brings Doyle’s life and character to a wholly satisfying end in and of itself. Having experienced the wrath of the Scourge when he first got the visions, Doyle advises Angel strongly that help has to be offered to the Listers. When Angel infiltrates the Scourge to get info on their plans (which is done completely illogically; they would never be so quick to accept him), he discovers their plan to use a scientific device that kills any creature with humanity in it, including half demons (another stupid plot device, the origin of which is never explained).

And Doyle’s at a place now where he realizes fully the mistakes of his past, why he made them, what he can do to avoid them again and what he has to do to make up for them. When speaking with the young half-demon Rieff, he’s speaking to a young version of himself: “They put their faith in something, Rieff. You don’t have to if you don’t want to. Maybe Angel doesn’t know what he’s doing. It’s possible. But the other option: losing yourself somewhere, hoping it all goes away, I know that never works.” Doyle made these mistakes because of losing this hope and faith, resulting in the destruction of his marriage and a tailspin in his life. And clearly, when the time comes, he knows what he has to do to atone for them.

And it’s not just finally ballsing up to ask Cordelia out either (which was still a very sweet moment). The time comes when the Scourge have lowered the device in place to wipe out the Lister demons, and Angel realizes what the right thing to do is, but then Doyle does it for him. This was a really good shock the first time I saw the episode (I didn’t think they’d kill him a main character so fast), and is all the more powerful because it was something Doyle didn’t have to do. Angel would’ve thrown himself on the device gladly, saved the demons and all would’ve made sense. But Doyle had seen Angel’s immense ability to sacrifice, live, fight and do great good. As he tells Rieff: “I don’t know anything about your people’s myths and legends. But I do know Angel, and he’s the genuine article.”

He’d fought alongside the soulful vampire for an estimated few months now, and particularly after about hearing how Angel gave up his perfect day with Buffy for the greater good, was in awe of his friend’s capacity for self sacrifice. It was because of these well placed, connected and logical events that Doyle’s actions were perfectly rational, and therefore very deeply moving. Doyle died so Angel could keep fighting.

After the big showdown, we go back to the ad Doyle taped for Cordelia and how our perception of it has changed is what this episode is about. Being a Hero has nothing to do with melting hearts, wearing billowy black coats or riding off with the damsel (the stereotype Angel himself is closest to). It’s about stepping up to do the extraordinary when the time comes upon you, and it’s nice to see how right Cordy was: Doyle was perfect for the ad.

Despite its flaws, this episode retains most of its power in the intelligence and quality of this character’s last hurrah, and I do so wish the episode itself could’ve been better. The score could’ve gone lower, and I had planned to give it no more than a 75 or 80 originally because of the weaknesses, but in retrospect of the entire series, this episode has a lot of importance.

Not just in that Angel continued living so he could fight, but how his friend’s sacrifice constantly swam under the surface of his mind, giving him the strength to live and the will to fight. Bye Doyle. You’ll be missed (and what a shame you never had a chance to hang out with Wesley, Lorne or Spike).


Minor Pros/Cons (+/-)

+ Cordelia’s fantasy of the Angel Investigations ad. This is where the joke about Angel being ‘the dark avenger’ originates.
+ The hilarity/scariness of picturing Angel in tights.
+ Cordelia getting offended; “What do you think I am? Superficial?!”
+ Doyle smiling back as he jumps on the device.
+ The Lister demons in shock and sadness after Doyle is vaporized.

– Rieff. He was a bit annoying, despite his good scene with Doyle.
– The Scourge.



37 thoughts on “Angel 1×09: Hero”

  1. [Note: bookworm posted this comment on April 24, 2006.]

    Yeah, this is really a good review. I really liked it; everything is adressed, all the problems, all the great parts.

    Although “Hero” has a few more problems than “I will remember you” it had a bigger emotional impact on me, Because I didn’t expect Doyle to die. And whenever I see the tape, I nearly got tears in my eyes.


  2. [Note: Grounded posted this comment on April 24, 2006.]

    As much as I hate being spoiled, if I hadn’t been spoiled for Hero I’d have been even more of a wreck for weeks afterwards. 😉


  3. [Note: bookworm posted this comment on April 24, 2006.]

    yeah, that’s the only advantage of spoilers: it’s a little more difficult to make you a wreck (Innocence, Becoming Pt.2 etc.).


  4. [Note: fryrish posted this comment on April 24, 2006.]

    I second your opinions on Doyle as a character in this episode.

    The other flaws you put forward, I don’t even consider flaws. I felt the Scourge were an effective villain in this episode and the Nazi allusions worked, given Doyle’s entire inner-conflict was about coming to terms with his demon side.

    Again, the mythology is a non-issue for me. Pure blood demons is an interesting thing, but I think you may be overstating the issue.

    There’s definately a distinction between Pure Demons (ala Graduation Day) and demons with pure blood (ie, their blood isn’t mixed with human blood). I’m terrible with quotes so I’m not sure about the exact wording used in either episode, from memory.

    I don’t know where the idea that all demons must be part human comes from, I can’t recall any exact quotes to that effect. Again, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen Graduation Day. How are they half-breeds? I don’t really understand your logic there.


  5. [Note: Grounded posted this comment on April 24, 2006.]

    Anya: All the demons that walk the earth are tainted, are human hybrids like vampires. The Ascension means that a human becomes pure demon. They’re different.


  6. [Note: Ryan-R.B. posted this comment on April 26, 2006.]

    Fryrish: This is a possibility that entered my mind, but they never bothered to make the distinction in the show. Anyway, the scourge themselves are the biggest problem in the ep, not the soul thing. Always glad to have another Doyle fan around. We seem shocking few don’t we?


  7. [Note: Dingdong posted this comment on July 31, 2006.]

    When I first saw Doyle in City Of, I didn’t expect him to be very good, but almost immediatly he settled in, and worked very well with the regulars. Indeed, I’d argue that for the next few episodes the new dynamic in’t as good, because of the writer’s rough start in writing for Wesley (he’s given far too many pratfalls).


  8. [Note: Grounded posted this comment on July 31, 2006.]

    It’s actually quite handy that Expecting and She, two of the poorest and therefore least rewatched episodes, contain most of said pratfalls. 😉


  9. [Note: Ryan-R.B. posted this comment on July 31, 2006.]

    And then the next minute he’s somehow a super badass? No way. I think it took the writers a bit of time to strike the right balance for his character. Obviously he’s not an idiot, but he is slightly incompetent, a bit naive and quite untested in the field, especially compared to a Watcher like Giles.


  10. [Note: Ben posted this comment on December 1, 2007.]

    I disagree! I think this episode was a great send off for Doyle and his death was very poignant and amazing. Definitely a 100 episode, imo. I loved the plot and the last scene with Doyle’s tape kills me every time.


  11. [Note: buffyholic posted this comment on February 3, 2008.]

    I´m so wrapped up in all the emotions surrounding Doyle and his death that some of the flaws don´t bother me as much.


  12. [Note: Ben posted this comment on October 24, 2008.]

    Oh, I think it’s strange that you only gave it an 85.

    I would give it a 9.5/10, minus the .5 because the Nazi metaphor through The Scourge was shoved down our throats. But it was such a touching episode.


  13. [Note: BreakAtmo posted this comment on November 11, 2008.]

    The whole Nazi thing was definetly a problem, but just imagine that the Nazi’s modeled themselves after the Scourge like you said, and it’s aaaaaallll good. 😛

    Regarding the pure-blood thing, I think that the answer is that there are different levels of ‘tainting’. Some demons may have only a little human blood, some, like Doyle and the Listers, can be full-blown half-breeds. I’d peg the Scourge as having very little human blood, and either not knowing the stuff Anya knew, or just being in denial/self-hatred, much like Lord Voldemort – it’s an interesting plot point that really should have been elaborated upon.

    Oh well. In the end, good episode.


  14. [Note: MrTrick posted this comment on November 17, 2008.]

    You’re right about the whole nazi ordeal being pretty cheesy, but come on – giving this episode a lower score than I Will Remember You? That one suffers from at least as many flaws, and in the end is just another Buffy/Angel melodrama episode (though, I’ll admit, one of the better ones).

    The tape at the end completely redeems this episode to me, and I’m starting to realize season 1 might be better than I gave it credit for on the first watch.


  15. [Note: Emily posted this comment on May 3, 2009.]

    I love Doyle!! Can’t believe Joss killed him off. Objectively, I agree with most of your points, Ryan, but when I’m watching the episode, it’s just so well-done and so emotional that it doesn’t bother me. I don’t even notice it.

    RIP Doyle.


  16. [Note: Adam posted this comment on May 12, 2009.]

    I want quickly to address the point above about pureblood demons in the BtVS universe. The way I look at it is this:

    The Gestapo outfits are the key. The Nazis considered themselves the master race, but they had no more mastery than anyone else, of course. They justified killing the Jews and disabled people by saying these groups were inferior. Now, Hilter himself had a Jewish grandmother, making him ethnically part Jewish. So, you can see the utter hypocrisy of the claim for a master race, not to mention the moral destitution.

    Now, back to Angel. The “pureblood” demons were never pureblood at all. They were tainted just like all other part demons on earth, but used the delusion of purity to drive their genocide. The contraption that kills Doyle probably just kills things that are not that species.

    This is one way to explain away the inherent discrepancy in the episode. And it makes sense to me to read it this way.


  17. [Note: wytchcroft posted this comment on August 1, 2009.]

    I hear your reservations – and yet somehow i just don’t seem to care. This one comes roaring out the gate and never lets up, dialogue, direction, performance and editting all kicked up a gear along with the first real darkness the show has seen.

    What i always forget is how funny the first act is and how the whole ensemble get their turn to be centre stage before the spotlight settles on Doyle.

    The scourge may be morons, but they look great and scare the crap out of me. And this is a great Cordelia episode too.

    But yeah, ultimately, Quinn OWNS this – a tour de force that (alas) now serves as a fine testament to the guy. His parting is sorrow and it aint sweet – i can only wish they had used him a little more a lot sooner – no/one can tell me that Boreanaz aint tearing up for real. (twice!)

    Oh and a nice Davros shout out in the scourge speech.

    I like the climax fine – yet another big battle would have been duller for me, and ok the Wrath of Khan deus-ex-machina device may be exacttly that but it works and it keeps the last act character focused.


  18. [Note: Ray posted this comment on November 22, 2009.]

    I agree with most of what wythcroft just said. This is an incredible episode of television, and one of my all-time favorite Angel eps. Doyle was a great character and I remember being first very sad, then very angry with the fact that they quickly tried to replace him with the semi-annoying Giles Jr. from season 3 of BTVS. (Little did I know Wesley would eventually establish himself as one of the best characters in the entire verse. Anyway, as I was saying this is a remarkable 43 minutes of tv, and easily in my top 25 episodes of Angel, probably top 10.


  19. [Note: JammyJu posted this comment on January 24, 2010.]

    Re-watching AtS for a second time, and watched this yesterday.

    All the more sad due to knowing how sorely missed he will be, and the fact he has passed away in real life.

    I just love this show. Moments such as Doyle’s death give it this lasting impact..just makes the show all the more bittersweet.

    Well done for acknowledging how bad the Nazi demons were.

    And Season 1 is sooo still my second fave season =)


  20. [Note: Nathan.Taurus posted this comment on January 24, 2010.]

    Doyle dies in an absolutely heroic death sequence in an unremarkable episode that is pulled way up because of his death.

    The nazi theme I didn’t get while watching it, only the demons calling themselves “pure blood” got me and what happened to all the demons once Doyle died?

    They cannot be hurt by the machine so wouldn’t they have stayed to watch and then fought to wipe them all out once their plan was stopped?


  21. [Note: Joe posted this comment on January 28, 2010.]

    I must agree with Ryan’s review here. The Nazi parallel was just not very original. There could have been a much more unique, creative way for a writing staff as smart and strong as Angel’s to force Doyle to come to the same final conclusions he does at the end of this episode. While it certainly has some rather strong moments, that problem, as well as its internal consistencies about “pure” demons within the Buffy/Angel-verse knock it down a few pegs for me.


  22. [Note: AttackedWithHummus posted this comment on April 16, 2010.]

    Personally, I love the last 6 minutes of this episode – along with the good Doyle/Cordelia bits, but most of the rest was pretty shaky. I’m not sure I could even call this a “thinly veiled metaphor” (as I thought of the Scrouge when I first saw them) because, well, it’s barely a metaphor by the end. Whatever it was it was beating me over the head with it and significantly detracted from the beautiful Joss-y pain of having my heart ripped out. To this day I miss Doyle, he was such a great character. I was also somewhat annoyed at the poor consistency – it’s I quality I usually praise Joss Whedon & co. on.


  23. [Note: G1000 posted this comment on August 16, 2010.]

    Just watched this one for the first time, and I really don’t understand why it doesn’t get an A or a star thingy (which apparently has replaced the P).

    Who cares if the Scourge people were unoriginal and lame? So was the Judge in “Innocence”. This episode packs such a wallop, and I think Doyle’s death was just amazingly well-done (in contast to a few of the deaths in “Buffy”, which were powerful but felt a bit random). Great, great episode. After a slow start, I think I’m hooked on this show.


  24. [Note: Angela posted this comment on October 3, 2010.]

    To me the saddest thing about this episode is the parallel between Doyle’s and Quinn’s death…

    though the writers couldn’t obviously predict it, it is certain they had to write this episode because Quinn got kicked off the show and maybe that’s why it feels the episode is not as powerfull as when Buffy kills angel or when Tara dies. But to me it is, especially when Doyle says to the kid: “but the other option, losing yourself away, i know it never works” …

    rip Doyle – rip Glenn Quinn


  25. [Note: John Roberts posted this comment on November 2, 2010.]

    Wow, such a big disparity in views.

    Put me in the con camp. This was just another episode as far as I’m concerned, except that a character got killed off. Just when I was warming to the fella too. But I wasn’t shattered, because (unlike with say Jenny and Angel) there was no foreshadowing, no teasing, no wondering will it happen or not. (Plus yes I did know that Doyle doesn’t survive the series.)

    The Nazi cheese didn’t help either, although I will grant that Nazis marching in the dark will always be scary. But it was still a Star Trek Enterprise moment.

    Ah well, not for me.


  26. [Note: nathan.taurus posted this comment on January 3, 2011.]

    If you pause on the pure-demons faces it looks like they have human skin screwed on their face over their real skin. Creepy.

    The last minutes were really sad, especially the finale where Cordelia and Angel are watching the tape of Doyles message.

    Doyle:”–Is that it? Am I done?” Yes Doyle, you’re done. RIP Glenn Quinn. 8 years gone.


  27. [Note: Mash posted this comment on April 3, 2012.]

    Am I the only person who has been consistently disappointed by the lack of Irish-isms or jokes regarding Angel? I’m just asking for some occasional shout outs to the fact that Angel is Irish besides naming his son Connor. Doyle and Angel could have had a funny Irish banter going here and there. Totally off topic – I know.

    Mostly I wanted to bring up Xander’s speech in S7 where he talks about all his friends growing more powerful than him. As we know, Cordy got the power of visions from Doyle here. I wonder if Xander ever found out about this. The scoobies and Angel’s group have generally kept in touch for a long time [Angel visits, Willow visted, Faith as well] so I wonder if Xander knew he needed to include Cordy in that speech.


  28. [Note: Antoinette posted this comment on April 4, 2012.]

    i actually think this episode deserves a P. just because if doyle never died, cordy would haven ever gotten the vision, and would have never gotten the oportunity to evolve and grow the way she does with the visions. i think she would have stayed the same cordy we know in buffy. and the cordy/angel relationship would have been even worse in my opinion (i never liked them together even with her visions and change)


  29. [Note: Anne posted this comment on September 23, 2012.]

    Very nice review; I think you consider all the highs and lows fairly, and explain your point of view well. (Also, I love Doyle. Always happy to read reviews by someone else who shares the sentiment!) In my opinion, the demon-mythology thing doesn’t bother me (based on how I understood it), and so I would probably rank the episode closer to a 90%. Where’s the quote someone posted above? Anya: “All the demons that walk the earth are tainted, are human hybrids like vampires. The Ascension means that a human becomes pure demon. They’re different.” I guess, in my mind, she didn’t mean being specifically genetically (or soulwise) “human,” so much as being “of earth;” that somehow, demons in our plane of existence are limited as to what they can do, physically or mystically, due to conforming to “earth rules.” And that somehow, a demon in its home environment would be unfettered, that its powers would run more freely and easily and it could perhaps interact with or bend reality in a way it can’t do as well in this dimension. The Mayor was about to shed his “human,” his earthbound, limitations, and become something much more powerful and dangerous. I doubt Anya could have meant that demons were hybrids with a human *form* even then, because didn’t we already have non-humanoid demons (things that were all tentacles, blobby, etc.)?I never got the impression that a soul was something a “born demon” could have. It seems, in the Buffyverse, to be something humans are born with, as well as half-demons, who had one human parent. Which DOES lead me to one sticking point, and that would be Lorne, a full demon from Pylea. All I can guess on that one is that he’s one-of-a-kind, ensouled almost as a sort of “birth defect,” though that doesn’t really make sense. I keep getting confused as to how he’s one of the good guys, when the whole Buffy/Angel *universe* runs on the rule that a demon is a non-human, whose lack of a soul means it will be amoral and selfish and tend towards violence or whatever else will get it what it wants. Lorne certainly *acts* like he has a soul, to the point that I certainly believe he has one, given the show’s approach to the soul concept… but they never actually address it!


  30. [Note: Arachnea posted this comment on March 28, 2013.]

    I will always regret Doyle, he was so human, very flawed but so lovable. I also regret his departure because he and Cordelia were perfect for each other, it’s one of the few couples I rooted for (in BtVS or AtS). But his death was truly beautiful and meaningful, he didn’t do it to escape his life – he finally had a purpose and maybe a romance – but he knew Angel (the warrior) had to live to fight the good fight. He didn’t sacrifice himself to become a hero, but he understood the meaning of it.


  31. [Note: David posted this comment on May 10, 2013.]

    This episode was very good , I get upset everytime Doyle dies in this episode. Is it me or when he changed to his demon form then jumped on the becon he had a very bad looking cgi face ?
    Als I like how in I got you under my skin they mention Doyle again but in the next episode it sad they still keep Glenn quinn in the opening credits


  32. [Note: Robert posted this comment on July 19, 2014.]

    I agree with all of the pros and cons of this interview. After just having rewatched the episode I still don’t care for the Scourge and was relieved when they disappeared after this epi. Nonetheless it was still a great if bittersweet send-off for Doyle. Such a shame that Glenn Quinn died a few short years later as it would have been wonderful to see Doyle again in Season 4, which I think the writers had considered doing until his unfortunate passing in real life.

    And having watched the entire series multiple times, I liked some of the reflections that occur in Cordy’s final episode “You’re Welcome”, particularly her rewatching the Doyle video from this episode as well as her echoing his sentiments about Doyle’s sacrifice:

    Doyle to Angel: “The good fight, yeah? You never know until you’ve been tested. I get that now.”

    Cordy to Angel (watching Doyle’s video in You’re Welcome): “[He] used his last breath to make sure you’d keep fighting. I get that now.”


  33. [Note: Pandorita posted this comment on March 16, 2016.]

    This is the first chapter on both AtS and BTVS to make me cry like a baby. I wept a little in “I will remember you”, but this one… my god. I cried and sobbed and blew my nose and then kept crying. So sad and so powerful.

    Still, I agree with your ranking, 85 is fair. The episode has flaws and it saddens me they didn’t make it better. Doyle deserved a 100.

    Goodbye, Doyle. You will be missed.


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